Has Vladimir Putin's assault on
Ukraine outrun the resources he's committed to it? That's the view of retired US Army
Major General Mike Repass, who has an informed vantage point on the
conflict, having worked in the Ukrainian security sector since 2016. The former
commander of the US Special Operations Command in Europe, Repass provides
education and advisory support to the Ukrainian military on a US government
contract.
In discussions Thursday and Friday, I spoke to Repass about
why new leadership and the improved training of the Ukrainian military has
markedly improved its performance in recent years, the kind of anti-aircraft
and anti-tank weapons the Ukrainians hope that the US and its NATO allies will
supply them with and what he sees happening next as the war in Ukraine grinds
on. He predicts a campaign by the Russians that could turn the cities of
Ukraine into rubble, creating a refugee crisis that overwhelms bordering
nations, and destabilizes Central and Eastern Europe.
But Repass believes that while the
Russians may be able to overcome Ukraine's stiff defense, they will not be able
to hold onto the country because Putin doesn't have sufficient forces in
theater to occupy large swaths of Ukraine indefinitely. In short, Putin has
bitten off more than he can chew.
Disclosure: Repass is on the advisory
council of the Global Special
Operations Foundation, where I am the chairman of the board. Our
conversation was edited for clarity and length.
Repass: The bottom line is the
Ukrainian military forces have acquitted themselves exceptionally well thus far
in the war. Russia will have a very difficult time subduing them because they
are willing to fight until it becomes seemingly "futile," or they no
longer have the resources to do so.
The Ukrainians have been overmatched
by Russian technology and outmanned and outgunned -- by Russian tanks,
artillery, precision long range strike missiles, armored personnel carriers --
but the terrain favors the defenders, especially in the north and east of
Ukraine, although less so in the south.
I think time and mass are on the Russian
side, and they're going to be able to either create conditions for peace
suitable to Putin's liking, or they will outright destroy the cities of Ukraine
and the Ukrainian military with it, which to me still leaves a resistance
scenario for the Ukrainians. So, there are multiple plausible futures.
Bergen: Why are the Ukrainians
fighting better than many had expected?
Repass: I'm not surprised at how well
the Ukraine army is fighting. I am surprised at the lethargy of the Russian
assault; it seems to be slow and plodding up north. In the east, they're
getting their butts handed to them. In the south, they seem to be making steady
progress.
Putin expected the Ukrainians to
capitulate like they did in 2014 when he took Crimea, but overall, NATO and the
US have done a magnificent job in training the Ukrainian military and reforming
it and building it into a viable national defense force since 2014. The
difference between then and now is the leadership of Ukraine is set on unifying
with the West, politically, militarily, and economically.
On the military side, President
Zelensky had inherited an old cadre of guys that he has replaced. The military leadership he brought in last year
are all younger general officers, and they served together in the Donbas region
in combat against the Russians. The leadership he has on the military side is
much more engaged and much more influential.
Zelensky also brought in a new minister of defense. The previous minister was not up
to the task for several reasons, so he brought in Oleksiy Reznikov, and he's
been outstanding.
So, the new leadership has really
picked up the pace of reforms they were on. Given another year or two, those
guys would have been in a different place altogether, looking much more like a
NATO country's armed forces.
I've visited 100, 150, 200 tactical
units in various places -- in Afghanistan and Iraq, where I served two combat
tours -- and I know instantly when I walk into a tactical unit environment,
what the dynamic is there. When I visited a Ukrainian Special Forces unit in
September, I sensed that immediately these guys were well-trained; they looked
like our guys. They had the same mannerisms. They had the same planning
processes.
Bergen: I thought Putin's attack on
Ukraine would be like the US military seizing Baghdad in 2003 and that the
Russians would decapitate the Ukrainian regime quickly.
Repass: I think that's what the world
expected. So, strategically, the NATO mindset was, "Hey, we're not going
to get involved because by the time we commit to this thing, we get cranked up
and get engaged, the damn thing is going to be over. So we're not going to risk
the political capital with another nuclear power to do this." Yet now, we
have another geostrategic reality in that the Ukrainian defense is pretty
doggone viable. I think Ukrainians are in the vanguard of protecting the
liberal democracies of Europe.
Bergen: For the Ukrainians, what
weapons are needed now from NATO and the US? Or is it at the point where it's
too late to get weapons in because of logistical issues?
Repass: No, it's not too late. Every
Ukrainian tactical commander is asking for air defense and anti-tank weapons.
They want air defense weaponry like Stingers or SA-7s, and they want anti-tank
weapons. They know where the enemy is. They know how to get to him, but they
don't have the means in the field.
There's congestion in the NATO weapons
delivery pipeline because the spigot was only turned on days ago, and they
haven't reached the Ukrainian tactical units yet.
I'm not speaking for NATO in any way,
shape, or form when I say what I'm about to say, but one of the things is that
they must have a common communication system. Right now, there are dissimilar
and cumbersome communications between the Ukrainian commands and the nations
that are providing support.
The second thing is because it isn't a
NATO operation, NATO hasn't responded in a formalized way to stand up movement
coordination centers and logistic control centers. So there's a lot of
improvisation going on with the coalition of the willing and able, putting
together the transportation networks and the logistics networks. There's a lot
of work that can be done among and between the individual NATO member states to
shore up efficiency and effectiveness and speed up the delivery of the lethal
weaponry.
Bergen: Why is a 40-mile Russian
convoy on the road trying to take Kyiv? It seems a strange approach.
Repass: Yes. Everybody is scratching
their head about that. There are a couple things that I think feed into this.
So, it's 40 miles long now, but the convoy started out in segments. And those
segments were somewhere between 50 and a couple hundred vehicles at a time. The
idea was for these segments to deploy, but then the congestion started
happening due to combat fatalities and breakdowns.
Also, if the vehicles and tanks get
off that road, then they're in a quagmire. There's mud in the region that persists for basically the
springtime, running from now for another six weeks or so.
So, cross-country mobility is exceedingly
inhibited in the northern part of the country. The southern part of the
country, you don't have that problem. So you don't see these massive convoys
down south. You only see it up north where getting off the road is a problem.
Bergen: Why was this so poorly
planned, or was it just that it was likely to not go well because of the
weather circumstances we're seeing?
Repass: We assume the Russians are
capable of efficient planning, but they're also capable of bad planning. They
haven't done this level of planning and execution in any of their training
exercises. So, they're somewhat unfamiliar with the large maneuver and
sustainment aspects of what they're attempting to do.
Bergen: What's next?
Repass: A Russian campaign to turn the
cities into rubble, creating a refugee crisis, overwhelming the borders and the
border nations, and destabilizing Central and Eastern Europe.
They're going to target government
infrastructure and then means of command and control -- public communications,
internet, radio towers, cell phone towers -- anything they can do to disrupt
communications, so they separate the people from the government.
With this campaign, they want to
create mass shock and panic in the society to create complex challenges for the
government and degrade the will of the people. Already about a million refugees
have crossed the borders out of a population of around 41 million.
That's going to go up significantly. You're going to have several million
people streaming to the west.
Belarus and Russia will likely declare
martial law, and they'll be able to clamp down on all
manner of public discourse, media, internet, and cut down any
potential for resistance or coup attempts internal to their countries.
They likely will combine forces, move
to seal off the western border of Ukraine, first, to create a greater
humanitarian disaster in Ukraine; and second, to cut off any resupply coming in
from the West.
I think at that point in time, the
Ukraine military, will continue to fight primarily west of the Dnieper River.
In other places, particularly in the Ukrainian urban centers, you're going to
have an insurgency. A resistance will rise up either pre-planned or
organically, and they will inflict pain and destruction on the Russians to the
extent that they can.
This is where the term
"indigestible" comes into play. The Russians may be able to consume
Ukraine, but they cannot digest it. It will be too painful to hold onto it, and
eventually they will have to spit it back out. In essence, the cost of
occupation is too great compared to the returns.
The Russians may eventually control
the urban areas, but there are vast areas between them -- 50 kilometers, 80
kilometers apart -- where there's nothing. There are many small villages and
small towns that are not controlled by Russians.
The devastation is going to horrify
Europe and North America. The non-intervention argument will eventually be
overridden by the human suffering problem. And then, potentially a coalition of
the willing might impose something along the lines of a no-fly zone or safe
havens for refugees and citizens of the major metropolitan areas.
Bergen: So those safe havens could
look a little like the kind of safe haven that the US established in Kurdistan in Iraq in 1991?
Repass: Yes, something like that, in
western Ukraine.
Bergen: What is the minimum that Putin
wants to achieve in Ukraine?
Repass: The one critical thing that
Putin must have is control of the North Crimea Canal.
Bergen: Why is that?
Repass: Because when he invaded Crimea
and Donbas in 2014, the Ukrainians shut off the North Crimea Canal source at
the Dnieper River. So, it dried up, and they've been relying on groundwater in
Crimea since, and then the groundwater has all dried up. So, Putin has had no
fresh water in Crimea until now.
The Russians captured the North Crimea
Canal and fresh water just showed up in Crimea in the last day or so. So that's
the one thing he had to have.
What he also wanted to have is a land
bridge from Donbas over to Crimea and to secure that land route and the North
Crimea Canal source at the Dnieper River. He would essentially have control of
all territory east of the Dnieper River, going up to Kyiv and then arcing north
and eastward to Donbas. If Putin seizes enough land east of the Dnieper River,
then he's willing to bargain everything else away.
But even with the geographic territory
that I just described, Putin's circa 175,000 troops which are presently
deployed in and around Ukraine are not enough to maintain control of that
geography.
Bergen: How much manpower would Putin
need to control the territory?
Repass: Difficult to say.
The Russians must have enough people
to coerce the 41 million people in Ukraine to cooperate with the Russian
government. It took a large part of the German Army's Eastern Front to subdue
the Ukrainians so they could pursue the campaign into southern Russia during
World War II.
So, I don't see how Putin's going to
be able to pull that off.
I think the Western liberal
democracies have both a moral obligation and a political imperative to support
a nation fighting for its independence and the pursuit of a liberal political
order in the Western tradition. If not here, where will we take a stand against
autocratic and revisionist forces? What should Georgia and Azerbaijan conclude
from our timidity in the face of evil? Surely Taiwan is next.
I believe Russia's assault on Ukraine
is the leading edge of militarily strong states preying upon weaker ones. Few
of us thought we would be here, but so it is. What are we going to do now?
History has been unkind to nations
when they tolerate or appease such aggression. The concepts of territorial
integrity and democracy cannot end at NATO's borders. Is the rest of the world
to be left to the wolves while there is but one island of security? Russia's
attack on Ukraine cannot succeed if we hope to build and sustain the benefits
of democracy beyond NATO's borders.
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